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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my brothers was deeply into the Amway cult for a couple of years. He was a major cautionary tale for me, I tell ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my brothers was deeply into the Amway cult for a couple of years. He was a major cautionary tale for me, I tell ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol. I think the idea is that you give up having friends and acquaintances and just have a &#039;network&#039; of mutual back-scratchers. I know a number of people who seem to think that is an acceptable way to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. I think the idea is that you give up having friends and acquaintances and just have a &#8216;network&#8217; of mutual back-scratchers. I know a number of people who seem to think that is an acceptable way to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you, on the &quot;embarrassed to promote&quot; side of things. I even have a hard time promoting my editing services, and it&#039;s what I&#039;m actually trained to do. (Just starting out, in the past year or so.) And then you add the lack of funds, and it does get hard to know exactly how to go about it without sounding like a vulture. And making all your friends and acquaintances hide in a doorway whenever they see you coming down the street. Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, on the &#8220;embarrassed to promote&#8221; side of things. I even have a hard time promoting my editing services, and it&#8217;s what I&#8217;m actually trained to do. (Just starting out, in the past year or so.) And then you add the lack of funds, and it does get hard to know exactly how to go about it without sounding like a vulture. And making all your friends and acquaintances hide in a doorway whenever they see you coming down the street. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, don&#039;t stop now, Phyl. I love rants. Especially when I agree with them. I&#039;m particularly glad to hear you (as an insider) say what I&#039;ve always suspected, that with all this SEO going on, the value of Google is severely diminished.

It&#039;s remarkable how many writers - and good ones too - are writing SEO articles as their day job nowadays.

I&#039;m glad you think my strategy has struck some kind of balance between being a human being and being a salesman. As you can probably tell, I&#039;m a bit embarrassed by the whole idea of promoting my book. But, in the spirit of &quot;Don&#039;t eat meat unless you&#039;re willing to look a Spring lamb in the eye and shoot it,&quot; I&#039;m willing to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty. Nevertheless, as with the lamb thing, I&#039;d much rather I had the money to pay someone else to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t stop now, Phyl. I love rants. Especially when I agree with them. I&#8217;m particularly glad to hear you (as an insider) say what I&#8217;ve always suspected, that with all this SEO going on, the value of Google is severely diminished.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s remarkable how many writers &#8211; and good ones too &#8211; are writing SEO articles as their day job nowadays.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you think my strategy has struck some kind of balance between being a human being and being a salesman. As you can probably tell, I&#8217;m a bit embarrassed by the whole idea of promoting my book. But, in the spirit of &#8220;Don&#8217;t eat meat unless you&#8217;re willing to look a Spring lamb in the eye and shoot it,&#8221; I&#8217;m willing to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty. Nevertheless, as with the lamb thing, I&#8217;d much rather I had the money to pay someone else to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, don&#039;t knock soap, young fella. As a pom who came out to Australia, I was very pleased to discover it when I got here. It tastes a bit funny, but I&#039;m getting used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, don&#8217;t knock soap, young fella. As a pom who came out to Australia, I was very pleased to discover it when I got here. It tastes a bit funny, but I&#8217;m getting used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I unfortunately write SEO articles for a marketing article mill. I&#039;ve gotten so I can read an article and know immediately that it was written for SEO purposes.

1) I can spot the keywords stuffed into it, and because I&#039;m experienced using a keyword percentage calculating program, I can tell when someone has been overzealous and stuffed too many in (search engines don&#039;t approve of that), and when they&#039;ve been too sparse for the search engines to find them.

2) These articles SAY NOTHING. They are merely keyword delivery devices for search engines.

When I search Google for something, because of all this SEO stuff, I now almost never find any genuine information. I find superficial, keyword-stuffed articles designed only so the perpetrator can grab me and yell &quot;BUY! BUY! BUY!&quot; Everything is reduced to money, but there is little human value in any of it. I consider Google, now, to be almost worthless when I really want to learn something.

It may be the case that all these keyword-stuffed articles and posts bring the people on the top few Google listings a pile of money and sales. But with everyone doing it now, most of them are still left on page 30 of Google results.

It seems to me that the real way of disseminating value is still the more personal stuff, rather than all this calculated, contrived fakery. I don&#039;t dismiss SEO entirely, because it does bring some genuinely interested people to a place (I think, cynically, probably by accident). But I didn&#039;t arrive at your blog because I found a keyword, but because of interacting with you on Twitter.

So I think your efforts to find and inform people are a good compromise. And...I believe this turned into a bit of a rant. Gah, sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I unfortunately write SEO articles for a marketing article mill. I&#8217;ve gotten so I can read an article and know immediately that it was written for SEO purposes.</p>
<p>1) I can spot the keywords stuffed into it, and because I&#8217;m experienced using a keyword percentage calculating program, I can tell when someone has been overzealous and stuffed too many in (search engines don&#8217;t approve of that), and when they&#8217;ve been too sparse for the search engines to find them.</p>
<p>2) These articles SAY NOTHING. They are merely keyword delivery devices for search engines.</p>
<p>When I search Google for something, because of all this SEO stuff, I now almost never find any genuine information. I find superficial, keyword-stuffed articles designed only so the perpetrator can grab me and yell &#8220;BUY! BUY! BUY!&#8221; Everything is reduced to money, but there is little human value in any of it. I consider Google, now, to be almost worthless when I really want to learn something.</p>
<p>It may be the case that all these keyword-stuffed articles and posts bring the people on the top few Google listings a pile of money and sales. But with everyone doing it now, most of them are still left on page 30 of Google results.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the real way of disseminating value is still the more personal stuff, rather than all this calculated, contrived fakery. I don&#8217;t dismiss SEO entirely, because it does bring some genuinely interested people to a place (I think, cynically, probably by accident). But I didn&#8217;t arrive at your blog because I found a keyword, but because of interacting with you on Twitter.</p>
<p>So I think your efforts to find and inform people are a good compromise. And&#8230;I believe this turned into a bit of a rant. Gah, sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soap! Soap he tells me! I&#039;ve researching snake oil!
Damn, more time wasted.
Ah, well, put me down for carton. Shooting across now to the requested site in order to make loud noises demanding a copy of the set text. Perhaps this one will give me the secrets I require (insert fiendish laugh of your own choice)

soap, bloody hell.....

terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soap! Soap he tells me! I&#8217;ve researching snake oil!<br />
Damn, more time wasted.<br />
Ah, well, put me down for carton. Shooting across now to the requested site in order to make loud noises demanding a copy of the set text. Perhaps this one will give me the secrets I require (insert fiendish laugh of your own choice)</p>
<p>soap, bloody hell&#8230;..</p>
<p>terry</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sold! To the lady with the discerning eyeballs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sold! To the lady with the discerning eyeballs!</p>
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		<title>By: Janette</title>
		<link>http://grahamstorrs.cantalibre.com/03/01/2010/crowds-of-eyeballs/comment-page-1/#comment-1227</link>
		<dc:creator>Janette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done, Graham! I&#039;ll take my soap in lavender scented, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done, Graham! I&#8217;ll take my soap in lavender scented, thanks.</p>
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