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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee! I hope you&#039;re right. Though with the vanishing of the intermediaries, I think it&#039;s more likely that the top quality work will sink closer toward those writing garbage, for the same sorts of budgetary reasons. So I still think the garbage will be much more visible than it is now, and it will be just as hard as ever for quality work to be seen.

I stand between totalitarianism and capitalism myself -- I tell people I&#039;m a &quot;capitalism-with-the-hell-regulated-out-of-it-ist.&quot; Which means I think, even in publishing, a little bit of guidance here and there, in cooperation with a market system, will still work vastly better than a rampant market with no restraints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee! I hope you&#8217;re right. Though with the vanishing of the intermediaries, I think it&#8217;s more likely that the top quality work will sink closer toward those writing garbage, for the same sorts of budgetary reasons. So I still think the garbage will be much more visible than it is now, and it will be just as hard as ever for quality work to be seen.</p>
<p>I stand between totalitarianism and capitalism myself &#8212; I tell people I&#8217;m a &#8220;capitalism-with-the-hell-regulated-out-of-it-ist.&#8221; Which means I think, even in publishing, a little bit of guidance here and there, in cooperation with a market system, will still work vastly better than a rampant market with no restraints.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s ever going to be a perfect future! Under capitalism, the best we can hope for is a cheaper and more efficient one. Under democracy, we get the future we vote for. Under totalitarianism, we get what we&#039;re given. Personally, none of it gives me much hope.

As for the volume of garbage, I think you&#039;re right. The thing is, you won&#039;t be aware of most of it because the people producing it won&#039;t have a marketing budget. There are already as many self-published books as commercially published books but the great majority are invisible. I&#039;m confident that intermediaries will arise to filter it in all kinds of ways - including by quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s ever going to be a perfect future! Under capitalism, the best we can hope for is a cheaper and more efficient one. Under democracy, we get the future we vote for. Under totalitarianism, we get what we&#8217;re given. Personally, none of it gives me much hope.</p>
<p>As for the volume of garbage, I think you&#8217;re right. The thing is, you won&#8217;t be aware of most of it because the people producing it won&#8217;t have a marketing budget. There are already as many self-published books as commercially published books but the great majority are invisible. I&#8217;m confident that intermediaries will arise to filter it in all kinds of ways &#8211; including by quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So essentially, the volume of garbage is going to increase exponentially. And that&#039;s the &quot;perfect future&quot;? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So essentially, the volume of garbage is going to increase exponentially. And that&#8217;s the &#8220;perfect future&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can see two things happening. The first is that editing will become a completely freelance service (it has almost gone that way already, with some editors even being paid on a royalty basis, just like the author!) The books that are highly recommended are likely to be the better-edited ones, so authors will still need editors if they want to succeed. 

The other is that authors won&#039;t bother with editing and books will stand or fall on how well they were self-edited. 

Probably both will happen, with a few, savvy, professional writers involving editors, and the great bulk of writers not bothering and taking their chances. (From what I can tell, most self-published writers don&#039;t see the difference between a well-crafted book and the opposite - otherwise they would have been too embarrassed to publish their work in the first place.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can see two things happening. The first is that editing will become a completely freelance service (it has almost gone that way already, with some editors even being paid on a royalty basis, just like the author!) The books that are highly recommended are likely to be the better-edited ones, so authors will still need editors if they want to succeed. </p>
<p>The other is that authors won&#8217;t bother with editing and books will stand or fall on how well they were self-edited. </p>
<p>Probably both will happen, with a few, savvy, professional writers involving editors, and the great bulk of writers not bothering and taking their chances. (From what I can tell, most self-published writers don&#8217;t see the difference between a well-crafted book and the opposite &#8211; otherwise they would have been too embarrassed to publish their work in the first place.)</p>
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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my. But where does that leave editors? And the books that, while good, desperately do need a good editor&#039;s eye to get rid of the dross?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my. But where does that leave editors? And the books that, while good, desperately do need a good editor&#8217;s eye to get rid of the dross?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Phyl, I&#039;ve seen some local writers&#039; groups take matters into their own hands and publish their own members&#039; work (often in the form of anthologies of short stories.) This can be at least successful enough to pay for the costs of production and marketing, and active groups are bringing out a book every year or two.

I suspect that, in the end, it will be ebooks which finally change the game. Companies like Smashwords, which have the software to help you assemble and present a book, manage all the commercial stuff and take a 15% cut on sales, look to me like the biggest challenge to current publishing. 

This set-up does not solve the quality control problem but I see that coming from independent book review sites which will do, post hoc, what the agents and editors are now doing before the fact. These reviewers will build up strong reputations in each genre and will become the go-to guys for finding a good read. 

Since publishing will be, effectively, free, there will no point in writers handing their work to third parties to publish. Every writer will just publish everything they write and let the market sort out what it wants to read and what it doesn&#039;t. Power will then be in the hands of the reviewers and the smart review sites will probably crowd-source their end of the business. They will also, out of convenience, become the new book retailers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Phyl, I&#8217;ve seen some local writers&#8217; groups take matters into their own hands and publish their own members&#8217; work (often in the form of anthologies of short stories.) This can be at least successful enough to pay for the costs of production and marketing, and active groups are bringing out a book every year or two.</p>
<p>I suspect that, in the end, it will be ebooks which finally change the game. Companies like Smashwords, which have the software to help you assemble and present a book, manage all the commercial stuff and take a 15% cut on sales, look to me like the biggest challenge to current publishing. </p>
<p>This set-up does not solve the quality control problem but I see that coming from independent book review sites which will do, post hoc, what the agents and editors are now doing before the fact. These reviewers will build up strong reputations in each genre and will become the go-to guys for finding a good read. </p>
<p>Since publishing will be, effectively, free, there will no point in writers handing their work to third parties to publish. Every writer will just publish everything they write and let the market sort out what it wants to read and what it doesn&#8217;t. Power will then be in the hands of the reviewers and the smart review sites will probably crowd-source their end of the business. They will also, out of convenience, become the new book retailers.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great analysis! But now I&#039;m wondering if you have practical ideas for how this whole process can be changed. My first thought was &quot;some kind of writers union,&quot; yet there really are countless writers out there who produce dreck, who wouldn&#039;t really qualify to be part of that sort of united group until they had showed they were worth publishing in the first place -- which comes back to the original problem.

Using the supermarket analogy you used - is the answer some sort of &quot;local writing/publishing&quot; movement, like the &quot;local food&quot; movement? What an interesting problem.

Must mull this for a while. But it would be interesting to hear what sort of ideas you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great analysis! But now I&#8217;m wondering if you have practical ideas for how this whole process can be changed. My first thought was &#8220;some kind of writers union,&#8221; yet there really are countless writers out there who produce dreck, who wouldn&#8217;t really qualify to be part of that sort of united group until they had showed they were worth publishing in the first place &#8212; which comes back to the original problem.</p>
<p>Using the supermarket analogy you used &#8211; is the answer some sort of &#8220;local writing/publishing&#8221; movement, like the &#8220;local food&#8221; movement? What an interesting problem.</p>
<p>Must mull this for a while. But it would be interesting to hear what sort of ideas you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jacob. There&#039;s nothing wrong with being Machiavellian in business. You should go far! 

On the crossover thing (photos to fiction) I&#039;m not sure you&#039;ll get much mileage out of it unless you find some real synergies between the two and exploit those. Even crossover influence between different kinds of writing is hard to achieve. Publishers of fiction don&#039;t care much if you are doing well in some non-fiction field (unless it relates directly to the story you&#039;re submitting - you know, like the detective used his extensive knowledge of photography to solve the crime.)

I had some success as a non-fiction writer a long time ago. I published three children&#039;s science books, over a hundred technical articles for magazines, contributed to well-known encyclopedias, produced several sets of educational wallcharts, etc., etc. (all for big-name publishers like Macmillan and Hachette.) However, none of that counted at all when it came to submitting fiction. The novels were judged on their own merit, not on mine - which is not a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jacob. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with being Machiavellian in business. You should go far! </p>
<p>On the crossover thing (photos to fiction) I&#8217;m not sure you&#8217;ll get much mileage out of it unless you find some real synergies between the two and exploit those. Even crossover influence between different kinds of writing is hard to achieve. Publishers of fiction don&#8217;t care much if you are doing well in some non-fiction field (unless it relates directly to the story you&#8217;re submitting &#8211; you know, like the detective used his extensive knowledge of photography to solve the crime.)</p>
<p>I had some success as a non-fiction writer a long time ago. I published three children&#8217;s science books, over a hundred technical articles for magazines, contributed to well-known encyclopedias, produced several sets of educational wallcharts, etc., etc. (all for big-name publishers like Macmillan and Hachette.) However, none of that counted at all when it came to submitting fiction. The novels were judged on their own merit, not on mine &#8211; which is not a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Storrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Storrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Janette. I suppose I shouldn&#039;t rant like this, but it gets up my nose that writers are so craven about being treated like dirt in this business. Yes, of course, writers should behave professionally at all times. That goes without saying. But I have worked with professionals all my life and I have never seen anything like what publishers and agents are getting away with. Professionalism is a two-way street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Janette. I suppose I shouldn&#8217;t rant like this, but it gets up my nose that writers are so craven about being treated like dirt in this business. Yes, of course, writers should behave professionally at all times. That goes without saying. But I have worked with professionals all my life and I have never seen anything like what publishers and agents are getting away with. Professionalism is a two-way street.</p>
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		<title>By: Janette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis Graham!

Let&#039;s face it, publishers can&#039;t stay in business without writers. They might manage without paper and ink (by going digital), but without content there is nothing to publish. 

I think you are right about writers&#039; collective role in this dynamic - except I would express it as &quot;we get the publishers we expect&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis Graham!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, publishers can&#8217;t stay in business without writers. They might manage without paper and ink (by going digital), but without content there is nothing to publish. </p>
<p>I think you are right about writers&#8217; collective role in this dynamic &#8211; except I would express it as &#8220;we get the publishers we expect&#8221;.</p>
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